Old Bold Pilots

"Don't be a show-off. Never be too proud to turn back. There are old pilots and bold pilots, but no old, bold pilots." – E. Hamilton Lee, 1949


Old Bold Pilots

"Don't be a show-off. Never be too proud to turn back. There are old pilots and bold pilots, but no old, bold pilots." – E. Hamilton Lee, 1949

“There are old pilots, and there are bold pilots, but there are no old, bold pilots.” So goes the saying with which most of us were taught to fly. It was with this thought in mind that a handful of pilots of yore decided to meet to commemorate having beaten the odds themselves. What better name for such a group than “Old Bold Pilots”?

In the fall of 1996, Pete Madison, a World War II P-38 pilot who had flown with Tommy Maguire and Charlie Lindberg in the 475th Fighter Group, invited a small group to gather for breakfast. From this humble beginning of about 10 pilots, sprang one of Coachella Valley’s most successful social groups.

Present membership now exceeds 200. What could account for this phenomenal growth in a time when most organizations are struggling with membership and attendance problems? The story is worth telling.


The first few gatherings took place at Sunshine Café in Cathedral City. Quickly, the group outgrew its meeting space and moved to Cathedral Canyon Country Club. Approximately a year later, again caused by unprecedented growth, it moved, once more—this time to Desert Willow Golf Resort in Palm Desert and later to the Indian Wells Golf Resort. We now meet at the Rancho Las Palmas Country Club. Directions

From the ground up, the Old Bold Pilots was formed under one rule: “There are no rules!” That means no officers, no dues – only a desire to enjoy the company of fellow aviation enthusiasts. The OBP are former military, civilian, and airline pilots. We have several women pilots. Membership is not restricted to pilots. Everyone is welcome. For several years, the group was honored by the presence of two submariners. After all, there are more aircraft in the ocean than submarines in the sky! Some members have distinguished combat records, and others held senior military commissions across all branches of the US Armed Forces. It’s a fascinating and accomplished group who share a lot of memories, experiences, and good laughs.

Our thing is flying and aviation. We don’t just tell war stories. It’s quite the opposite. Some of our previous guest speakers have talked about the Lockheed “Skunk Works”; the Lockheed-Martin F-35 “Lightning II”; flying a PBY Catalina around the world; the illustrious Poncho Barnes; the evolution of the Global Positioning System (GPS); helicopter combat in Vietnam and the first Gulf War; Forensic Aircraft Accident investigation, and on, and on.

Welcome, fellow pilots and aviation enthusiasts!

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